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Hamburg und Umzu<p>Social Hub am Hamburger Hauptbahnhof: Gemischte Zwischenbilanz</p><p>Seit einem Jahr gibt es am Hauptbahnhof den Social Hub als Koordinierungsstelle für soziale Einrichtungen. Die ersten Erfahrungen sind gemischt.</p><p><a href="https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Social-Hub-am-Hamburger-Hauptbahnhof-Gemischte-Zwischenbilanz,socialhub100.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Soc</span><span class="invisible">ial-Hub-am-Hamburger-Hauptbahnhof-Gemischte-Zwischenbilanz,socialhub100.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hh</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hamburg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hamburg</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hauptbahnhof" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hauptbahnhof</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialHub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Armut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Armut</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kriminalit%C3%A4t" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kriminalität</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Schlotzhauer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Schlotzhauer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgNews</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamburg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hamburg</span></a></p>
Hamish Campbell<p><strong>These aren’t pointless projects</strong></p> #mainstreaming #liberalism has lost its way. For the past 20 years, many self-described liberals have spewed out bilge water disguised as "common sense." But when pressure mounts, they reveal themselves as dogmatic and intolerant, almost as if they aren't truly liberal at all. How did we end up in this mess? The #deathcult, #stupidindividualism, and the rise of #dotcons shaped the dominant version of "common sense," warping it away from collective care and into something narrow and […] <p><a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/these-arent-pointless-projects/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/these-arent</span><span class="invisible">-pointless-projects/</span></a></p>
Fedizen ⁂ Fediverse News<p>»<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Decentralized</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialNetworks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialNetworks</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WordPress" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WordPress</span></a> with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AlexKirk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlexKirk</span></a>: WordPress Can Be a Decentralized <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialHub</span></a>. The <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Friendsplugin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Friendsplugin</span></a> allows WordPress users to follow other sites, aggregate content, and even act as a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/socialnetwork" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>socialnetwork</span></a> using ActivityPub.« <a href="https://dothewoo.io/decentralized-social-networks-wordpress-with-alex-kirk/?Fedizen.EU" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">dothewoo.io/decentralized-soci</span><span class="invisible">al-networks-wordpress-with-alex-kirk/?Fedizen.EU</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fedizen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fedizen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>News</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p>The crew gathered around <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/SocialHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SocialHub</span></a> worked remarkably well for a while, organising good gathering, conferences and very useful outreach of <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> to the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>EU</span></a> that seeded much of the current <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a>. The Evolution of SocialHub <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/the-evolution-of-socialhub/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/the-evoluti</span><span class="invisible">on-of-socialhub/</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p>The normal problem, the trajectory of <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/SocialHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SocialHub</span></a>, and the broader <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> community, simply went off course due to factors that we need to talk about:Thoughts on the mess we made with the wider <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> reboot <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on</span><span class="invisible">-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p>Thoughts on the mess we made on <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> and the wider <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> reboot <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on</span><span class="invisible">-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/</span></a> addressing these issues—people, governance, values, and sustainability—the community can begin to rebuild, with a “native” approach, it’s possible to compost the mess into fertile soil for future growth.</p>
witchescauldron<p>Linking the Social Web Foundation (<a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/SWF" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SWF</span></a>) to the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/SocialHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SocialHub</span></a>, it&#39;s the process that is more important than the outcome. It&#39;s crucial to develop grassroots consensus processes that align with open, transparent governance. This can help manage the mess and delight of the libertarian, independent spirits often seen in open-source communities. Establishing a simple, ruff consensus allows people to mediate the mess-making and guide projects more efficiently. It encourages collective decision-making while respecting diverse views within the community.</p><p>Fostering this balance is essential for building a collaborative, effective path.</p><p><a href="https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/proposal-linking-to-swf/4673" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/</span><span class="invisible">proposal-linking-to-swf/4673</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p>On the Fediverse the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NGO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>NGO</span></a> path are basically imperialism <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial</span><span class="invisible">ism</span></a> , there is a long history of this, and the important thing to realise is that these people have no idea they are doing this. </p><p>As a rule of thump, you can tell if it&#39;s on balance a mess or sense if it doesn&#39;t link to <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> it&#39;s likely mess, agen the people involved have no clue why this is the problem it is.</p><p>Let&#39;s hope what they make is not only more <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/techshit" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>techshit</span></a> to compost, the history of this imperialism for the last few hundred years is not good.</p>
witchescauldron<p>Spaces like <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/SocialHub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SocialHub</span></a> do matter. They try to embody the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/4opens" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>4opens</span></a>, but for that to be sustainable, there must be a focus on not letting the same patterns of decay and circular discussions take hold. This path needs trust and a shared vision, something that doesn’t come naturally to libertarian-minded cats but is essential for any lasting movement.</p>
witchescauldron<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ricmac" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricmac</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cosocial.ca/@evan" class="u-url mention">@<span>evan</span></a></span> the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NGO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>NGO</span></a> mess is spreading, lets cross fingers this is not ONLY mess. Our grassroots path is failing with the stagnation on <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> and the active <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/blocking" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>blocking</span></a> of grassroots governance, fear and &quot;control&quot; are both not native paths for the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p>UPDATES this post: Thoughts on the mess we made on <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> and the wider <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> reboot <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on</span><span class="invisible">-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/</span></a> This is exactly what <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> was &quot;broader discussions focusing on social issues&quot; for the first 3 years or so, we had the path we now need in place as native grassroots.</p><p>A tiny number of people used the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/geekproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>geekproblem</span></a> to narrow this open space down to focus EXCLUSIVELY on the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/FAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FAP</span></a>. Why and how this happens is the question.</p>
witchescauldron<p>&quot; I just don&#39;t see SocialHub as likely to evolve into the kind of place for the broader discussions focusing on social issues.&quot; </p><p>The problem we are talking about. </p><p>This is exactly what <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> was &quot;broader discussions focusing on social issues&quot; for the first 3 years or so, we had the path we now need in place as native grassroots. </p><p>A tiny number of people used the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/geekproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>geekproblem</span></a> to narrow this open space down to focus EXCLUSIVELY on the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/FAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FAP</span></a> </p><p>Why and how this happens is where the value is, so we don&#39;t keep adding to this mess, in the future.</p><p>PS, this mastodon mess of jumping from public to semi private all the time is a mess.</p>
witchescauldron<p>@jess@zeroes.ca with the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> mess pushing over everything, also inside our alternatives, this is a very hard and messy problem to balance.</p><p>A first step is to be &quot;intolerant of intolerance&quot; by being <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/4opens" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>4opens</span></a> to base this on. The problem is that this is a right-wing path <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_</span><span class="invisible">of_tolerance</span></a> so we add the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/4opens" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>4opens</span></a>, ethics to turn this to the left/progressive <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/KISS" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>KISS</span></a></p><p>&quot;the rule of an enlightened &quot;philosopher-king&quot; (cf. Noocracy) is preferable to the tyranny of majority&quot; is the bases and fear unthinkingly in <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FOSS</span></a> governance paths. Much of the trolling comes from this unthinking.</p><p>The same, from the right wing, what would left wing/progressive <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FOSS</span></a> governance path look like. <br />As we are activist, we do practical alternatives as well as talk. At the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/OMN" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OMN</span></a> we have a project <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/OGB" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OGB</span></a> for this that came directly from the mess we made of <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> the <a href="https://opencollective.com/open-media-network/projects/openwebgovernancebody" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">opencollective.com/open-media-</span><span class="invisible">network/projects/openwebgovernancebody</span></a></p><p>This would mediate the trolls by structure, trust and community, rather than browbeating, blocking and lying which we see as default in our <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> mess, we had on <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a>.</p><p>I am assuming different paths, the is individualist and social, am always talking about the social. </p><p>An old post on how we all became trolls <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/who-is-the-troll/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/who-is-the-</span><span class="invisible">troll/</span></a> hope this hopes to make the difference more visible.</p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/OMN" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OMN</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@jdp23" class="u-url mention">@<span>jdp23</span></a></span> @oliphant @onepict @dansup @how@s10y.eu @u2764 <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@how" class="u-url mention">@<span>how</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a></p><p>@smallcircles this reply needs composting, it&#39;s the mess. </p><p><a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/bad-faith-arguments-dominate-social-media/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/bad-faith-a</span><span class="invisible">rguments-dominate-social-media/</span></a> This link is what I was always talking about on the path pushed in mess reply.</p><p>Then for composting, this link is a shovel <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/thoughts-on</span><span class="invisible">-the-mess-we-made-on-socialhub-and-the-wider-openweb-reboot/</span></a> </p><p>I am handing to the people in this post. </p><p>And a final point <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/?s=stupidindividualism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/?s=stupidin</span><span class="invisible">dividualism</span></a> is a reply to this mess &quot;start your initiative, improve the world. If people like it, they will join your cause. I&#39;m not enchanted.&quot; as it&#39;s so off subject as to be trolling to the subject in the links.</p><p>Now to compost this we can use metaphors or names, what makes better compost? What will you do with the linked shovels?</p>
witchescauldron<p>To note for people who are not familer with this way of looking at the world, the ansear to the question is always more alt grassroots vs less mainstreaming, of course this is always a balance so best not to get into a <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/ragecircle" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>ragecircle</span></a> on this mess making.</p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Socialhub</span></a> originated as a grassroots alternative space specifically designed to maintain the integrity of the activertypub reboot within its inherent framework. Initially stemming from <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/activertypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>activertypub</span></a> itself, this forum embarked on this trajectory.</p><p>The emergence of the current <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> reboot was more serendipitous than deliberate. Amidst the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/WC3" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>WC3</span></a> proceedings, the absence of the typical mainstream participants allowed our alternative cohort to drive and solidify the definition through this &quot;native&quot; <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/4opens" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>4opens</span></a> technological pathway an uncommon yet advantageous route for our community to follow.</p><p>Socialhub fostered a genuine and thriving community. The pinnacle of this community&#39;s strength was witnessed during the outreach efforts to the EU within the Fediverse. However, recent years have brought challenges; the influx of individuals without a &quot;native&quot; <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> view has led to a divergence from our initial focus, primarily due to the significant impact of Twitter immigrants and the expansion of the Fediverse. This is good and bad, we have moved a long way from where we started, and have to make the best of this more messy community.</p><p>Over the last year we have had a (strong dogmatic) shift to the tech side of activertypub working and away from the social side that is needed for making a working <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> reboot. In the forum we have had a reduction of the core crew, and an influx of the tech focused new members, this is likely a mirror in the expansion and the rebooting of the WC3 process and the two have have a balancing act of responsibility. </p><p>“To use the forum, you must agree to these terms with Petites Singularités, the company that runs the forum.” This has become more visible and the owner has a point of view and agenda, this is actually not a space for/by “community” in the sense it was originally sold… shifting from “serendipitous to deliberate” the solution to this shift/issue is likely not easy and involves democracy in some form.</p><p>Grassroots is always messy, that&#39;s how you can judge if its grassroots or NOT :)</p><p>Let’s try some constructive comments on this to improve the fep process.</p><p>What we have here is a classic activism 3 steps forward 3 steps back process, this is a recurring issue.</p><p>The ideas behind this are good, the outcome is questionable, and the process still needs work.</p><p>There is a current undeclared fight in the FEP → W3C email list, that is likely unresolvable which is a fine example of the fluffy spiky debate, the only good outcome from my prospective and likely socialhub is making the fep more Legitimacy (political) this is a post with ideas for process to help that happen.</p><p>To be a valid fep they should have a non-technical (social) explanation on why it’s needed and what are the social implications of this purely technical change.</p><p>As we are NOT only talking about technical points here, most are based on social ideas and have social outcomes for social networking. We need this wider buy in to make this process legitimate.</p><p>This process is simple and can be started by the original poster, then carried on by the wider community to build buy in and legitimacy.</p><p>Currently, both the fep and the W3C are too much black boxes to have any path to build buy in, thus are being ignored defacto.</p><p>This will likely continue without some basic activism as outlined above, the is much to learn from this long history of affective activism.</p>
witchescauldron<p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Socialhub</span></a> was built as a grassroots alt space to keep the activertypub reboot “native” this forum started as <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/activertypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>activertypub</span></a> itself started “native” on this alt path.</p><p>The current <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/openweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>openweb</span></a> reboot is accidental in that during the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/WC3" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>WC3</span></a> process the normal <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> people did not turn up so we ended up with our alt crew pushing the definition through this “native” path in tech is unusual and a good path for us to keep to.</p><p>We had a real community on socialhub. The process of outreaching the Fediverse to the EU was likely the highlighting of this community. The last few years, with the twitter immigration and Fediverse expansion this community has had problems, a big influx of agenders has lead to a shift away from this &quot;native&quot; focus.</p>
witchescauldron<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cosocial.ca/@evan" class="u-url mention">@<span>evan</span></a></span> </p><p>&quot;they are friendly enemies&quot; this is a view of the polarization our freshly <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> people push over &quot;native&quot; alt spaces, it makes a mess, let me illustrate: </p><p>An example of this are the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/fedifourm" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>fedifourm</span></a> guys, they are &quot;well meaning&quot; but talk to them and you get dogmatic liberal imperialism, pushing polarizing mess making.</p><p>Look at current shifts in <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialhub" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>socialhub</span></a> It&#39;s now run by one person, the diversity is sidelined and silenced by the &quot;common sense&quot; of <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> it&#39;s a shadow of the community it was and needs to be.</p><p>Experience the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/FEP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FEP</span></a> the lack of social buy in for this is feeding the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/geekproblem" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>geekproblem</span></a></p><p>Our tech it self with its <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/fudalisam" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>fudalisam</span></a> of admin, user etc, king and serf hardcoded allows the polarizing to embed. </p><p>All these initiatives are good and grassroots, but all are poisoned by the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> polarization of the dogmatic paths of the few people left in charge.</p><p>One way out of this mess is sortation based, consensus building, trust networking, democracy.</p><p>This is a completely normal recurring issue with grassroot activism, before we were <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a> we were doing better, the question we can&#39;t ask is how do we do better while <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mainstreaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>mainstreaming</span></a>.</p><p>The <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/OGB" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OGB</span></a> - as we can&#39;t keep doing the same shit, it&#39;s well past time to compost this mess.</p>