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@anarchopunk_girl Having a debt to society doesn't necessarily imlpy having agreed to the price mentioned in the captain's argument. You can recognize your debt without agreeing to its content, if you aren't talking about simple property rights. Ravachol bombing parliament would probably not be recognized as him paying his debt, that society had another kind of renumeration in head, but he would probably phrase it like that. You owing society somethings doesnt give society power over determining what those are. That was Kropotkin's argument againt private renumeration by labour vouchers. Trying to count so would be absurd and arbitrary, accrding to him.