To read later but here's a quote from the piece that sums up the NCRI

"the NCRI are basically tracking people and ideas and then giving that information to “the cops.” You’ll note, of course, that what qualifies as extremism, manipulation, hate, and deception are not defined."

Last fall the NCRI published a report entitled: Network-Enabled Anarchy: How Militant Anarcho-Socialist Networks Use Social Media to Instigate Widespread Violence Against Political Opponents and Law Enforcement.

So yeah me & my friends are extremists

@franklinlopez just to point this out, so-called antifascist Alexander Reid Ross works directly with Contagion alongside DHS, homeland security, DHS, and CIA.

Proof :

@GenericMediaReference yep yep that was the thrust of this mini-toot storm. Hoping some solid pieces by anti-fascists about the (obvious) and not so obvious problems with this come out soon. Such a bad precedent. Not to put you on the spot, but would love to hear what you think @tom_nomad

@franklinlopez @GenericMediaReference
Sorry for the late reply, lots going on. I have a lot of thoughts about this, and would refer people to a piece I wrote about a similar situation in the UK with a professor named John Drury. It can be found here:

There are some important nuances here that have been lost in the debate though, that become relevant in how we approach this scenario

@franklinlopez @GenericMediaReference
Firstly, let me say that the scope of these comments do not include conceptual critiques of Ross's work; I have plenty of those, and am working on a piece with a friend outlining some of those issues. The article linked at the beginning of this thread lays out a lot of similar criticisms.

There are clear positional issues with this. But, we have to be specific about what we are problematizing and how.

@franklinlopez @GenericMediaReference
The claim in some pieces is that the Network Contagion Institute has people from CIA, DHS, etc working there; that is false. The people that work there are FORMER members of intelligence agencies and academics, but they are not current members of intel branches. This positions the work of the NCI completely within academia, and specifically within a form of academia that has inherent relations to the State; in this case Ross is a geography professor.

@tom_nomad @franklinlopez @GenericMediaReference

I’d also like to emphasize the think-tankness of Network Contagion Research Institute as a unique config of the security apparatus more so than directly similar to a public research university’s ties to the state. The flows of capital and power in the knowledge apparatus are multiple. Which is very often visible as resistance flourishes down the hall from counterinsurgency seminars. I think this primes academe as a place for direct conflict.

@geograffiti @franklinlopez @GenericMediaReference

All I hope for, if people are going to go this route, is that they are more successful than my generation of insurrectionist academics were. Most of us have given up trying to leverage academia for mobilizing conflict at this point, and have left.

There are still routes of intervention in the academy, but those routes are closing fast due to the corporatization of the university.


@tom_nomad @franklinlopez @GenericMediaReference
mad agree. Thank you for sharing your experience! Hopefully cross-multi-inter-sector communiqations and world building in solidarity de-academifies the intellectual and retheorizes the praxis.

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@geograffiti @tom_nomad @GenericMediaReference Here's to cross-multi-inter-sector communications, world building in solidarity, de-academification of the intellectual and retheorizing the praxis!!

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