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@mazel @mira I think most of the basic approaches and ideas of Marxism are very wrong — dialectical "materialism" (viewing history as an inevitable progression between certain specific stages), reducing everything to class and economic forces, their ideas of how things must be centrally planned from the top down in order to be "rational," the specific account of value and profit Marx gives, and even why he cares about worker liberation in the first place (not centering autonomy and self determination, but some abstract economic sense of fairness based on teetering towers of abstractions). The entire edifice is also the exact sort of 1800s faux-scientific rationalism without a hint of actual empiricism (every concrete prediction Marx made has failed) or philosophy of science that people decry in the likes of Locke and so on, too, which is what is directly *responsible* for MLs treating it as the "immortal science." In fact I think *most* of the issues MLs can be laid squarely at the feet of Marxism itself in one way or another